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denise
05-11-2009, 02:54 PM
Normoxic Trimix Training in Forty Fathoms for Mike Bartlett, Chris and Bob
denise
05-12-2009, 07:35 PM
Hey guys,
You will need to plan your dives for this weekend......On Saturday we will do 2 dives, the first to 160' and the second to 180'. You want an EAD of 80-90 feet, so you need to plan your "best mix" for blending and planning purposes. You will do these dives on one set of doubles, with appropriate deco gasses, ie an aluminum 80 of Nitrox and enough O2. Arrange the plans (timewise) so you have adequate gas for your two dives, and bailout/emergencies.
We all need to agree on the plan, so post your suggestions, or email each other to figure out whats going to work best.
Arctic Mike
05-13-2009, 07:00 AM
Hey All,
Tommy B will also be joining us so we can have 2 buddy teams. I haven't met Chris or Bob yet so we will have to spend a few minutes familiarizing ourselves with each others gear config. We'll start both dives the same way, with bubble checks and an S drill. These will be my first dives at Forty Fathoms so I am not sure about line protocol. I'm sure TJ or Denise can help us out there. On both dives we will shoot lift bags.
I have planned our dives conservatively (V-Planner) using a SAC rate of .8 at depth and .6 for deco. Please make sure that these rates are appropriate for everyone.
Dive 1
Decompression model: VPM - B
DIVE PLAN
Surface interval = 0 day 18 hr 0 min.
Elevation = 0ft
Conservatism = + 3
Dec to 160ft (3) Triox 21/33 50ft/min descent.
Level 160ft 11:48 (15) Triox 21/33 1.20 ppO2, 79ft ead, 96ft end
Asc to 120ft (16) Triox 21/33 -30ft/min ascent.
Asc to 70ft (18) Nitrox 32 -30ft/min ascent.
Stop at 70ft 1:00 (19) Nitrox 32 0.98 ppO2, 56ft ead
Stop at 60ft 1:00 (20) Nitrox 32 0.89 ppO2, 47ft ead
Stop at 50ft 1:00 (21) Nitrox 32 0.79 ppO2, 38ft ead
Stop at 40ft 1:00 (22) Nitrox 32 0.70 ppO2, 30ft ead
Stop at 30ft 1:00 (23) Nitrox 32 0.60 ppO2, 21ft ead
Stop at 20ft 3:00 (26) Oxygen 1.59 ppO2, 0ft ead
Stop at 10ft 4:00 (30) Oxygen 1.29 ppO2, 0ft ead
Surface (30) Oxygen -30ft/min ascent.
Off gassing starts at 106.9ft
OTU's this dive: 36
CNS Total: 15.3%
68.0 cu ft Triox 21/33
13.6 cu ft Nitrox 32
5.9 cu ft Oxygen
87.5 cu ft TOTAL
DIVE PLAN COMPLETE
Dive 2
Decompression model: VPM - B
DIVE PLAN
Surface interval = 0 day 2 hr 0 min.
Elevation = 0ft
Conservatism = + 3
Dec to 180ft (3) Triox 21/33 50ft/min descent.
Level 180ft 11:24 (15) Triox 21/33 1.32 ppO2, 91ft ead, 109ft end
Asc to 120ft (17) Triox 21/33 -30ft/min ascent.
Asc to 80ft (18) Nitrox 32 -30ft/min ascent.
Stop at 80ft 0:40 (19) Nitrox 32 1.07 ppO2, 64ft ead
Stop at 70ft 1:00 (20) Nitrox 32 0.98 ppO2, 56ft ead
Stop at 60ft 1:00 (21) Nitrox 32 0.89 ppO2, 47ft ead
Stop at 50ft 1:00 (22) Nitrox 32 0.79 ppO2, 38ft ead
Stop at 40ft 1:00 (23) Nitrox 32 0.70 ppO2, 30ft ead
Stop at 30ft 3:00 (26) Nitrox 32 0.60 ppO2, 21ft ead
Stop at 20ft 3:00 (29) Oxygen 1.59 ppO2, 0ft ead
Stop at 10ft 5:00 (34) Oxygen 1.29 ppO2, 0ft ead
Surface (34) Oxygen -30ft/min ascent.
Off gassing starts at 119.5ft
OTU's this dive: 42
CNS Total: 17.8%
76.7 cu ft Triox 21/33
16.2 cu ft Nitrox 32
6.7 cu ft Oxygen
99.6 cu ft TOTAL
DIVE PLAN COMPLETE
I have also planned 2 contingency scenarios, one for each dive. I planned these at 10 ft greater depth and an extra 5 minutes at depth.
Contingency Plan Dive 1
Decompression model: VPM - B
DIVE PLAN
Surface interval = 0 day 18 hr 0 min.
Elevation = 0ft
Conservatism = + 3
Dec to 170ft (3) Triox 21/33 50ft/min descent.
Level 170ft 16:36 (20) Triox 21/33 1.26 ppO2, 85ft ead, 103ft end
Asc to 120ft (21) Triox 21/33 -30ft/min ascent.
Asc to 90ft (22) Nitrox 32 -30ft/min ascent.
Stop at 80ft 1:20 (24) Nitrox 32 1.07 ppO2, 64ft ead
Stop at 70ft 1:00 (25) Nitrox 32 0.98 ppO2, 56ft ead
Stop at 60ft 1:00 (26) Nitrox 32 0.89 ppO2, 47ft ead
Stop at 50ft 1:00 (27) Nitrox 32 0.79 ppO2, 38ft ead
Stop at 40ft 2:00 (29) Nitrox 32 0.70 ppO2, 30ft ead
Stop at 30ft 4:00 (33) Nitrox 32 0.60 ppO2, 21ft ead
Stop at 20ft 4:00 (37) Oxygen 1.59 ppO2, 0ft ead
Stop at 10ft 7:00 (44) Oxygen 1.29 ppO2, 0ft ead
Surface (44) Oxygen -30ft/min ascent.
Off gassing starts at 119.1ft
OTU's this dive: 54
CNS Total: 22.7%
96.4 cu ft Triox 21/33
18.6 cu ft Nitrox 32
9.2 cu ft Oxygen
124.2 cu ft TOTAL
DIVE PLAN COMPLETE
Contingency Plan Diive 2
Decompression model: VPM - B
DIVE PLAN
Surface interval = 0 day 2 hr 0 min.
Elevation = 0ft
Conservatism = + 2
Dec to 190ft (3) Triox 21/33 50ft/min descent.
Level 190ft 16:12 (20) Triox 21/33 1.39 ppO2, 96ft ead, 116ft end
Asc to 120ft (22) Triox 21/33 -30ft/min ascent.
Asc to 100ft (23) Nitrox 32 -30ft/min ascent.
Stop at 100ft 1:00 (24) Nitrox 32 1.26 ppO2, 81ft ead
Stop at 90ft 1:00 (25) Nitrox 32 1.17 ppO2, 73ft ead
Stop at 80ft 1:00 (26) Nitrox 32 1.07 ppO2, 64ft ead
Stop at 70ft 1:00 (27) Nitrox 32 0.98 ppO2, 56ft ead
Stop at 60ft 1:00 (28) Nitrox 32 0.89 ppO2, 47ft ead
Stop at 50ft 1:00 (29) Nitrox 32 0.79 ppO2, 38ft ead
Stop at 40ft 3:00 (32) Nitrox 32 0.70 ppO2, 30ft ead
Stop at 30ft 4:00 (36) Nitrox 32 0.60 ppO2, 21ft ead
Stop at 20ft 5:00 (41) Oxygen 1.59 ppO2, 0ft ead
Stop at 10ft 7:00 (48) Oxygen 1.29 ppO2, 0ft ead
Surface (48) Oxygen -30ft/min ascent.
Off gassing starts at 132.7ft
OTU's this dive: 62
CNS Total: 27.4%
107.5 cu ft Triox 21/33
23.6 cu ft Nitrox 32
10.1 cu ft Oxygen
141.3 cu ft TOTAL
DIVE PLAN COMPLETE
I have planned our dives using 21/33 trimix for travel and depth and decompression using EAN32 and 100% O2. Allowing ourselves a 50% contingency for all mixes we will need at least 220 ft3 of 21/33, 45 ft3 of EAN32, and 20 ft3 of O2.
Let me know what you think!
TommyB
05-13-2009, 09:24 AM
Mike,
I'm not part of the team :)
It will be BoB, Chris and yourself. (3 man team)
I'm just here for fun. Denise and me might do a different dive then you guys. (I may just practice using 5 or 6 bottles again)
denise
05-15-2009, 08:00 AM
We will meet at the dive Site at 12 noon, we are going to mix gas in the morning....
Arctic Mike
05-15-2009, 08:18 AM
Noon????????????
Come on now, mix gas tonight so we can dive all day :icon_smile:
Arctic Mike
05-15-2009, 04:49 PM
OK guys, here's a proposal for our one dive on Sunday morning. I increased our conservatism factor to +3 for this one. We'll be a 3 man team and will do bubble checks and s-drills upon entering.
Here's the plan:
Decompression model: VPM - B
DIVE PLAN
Surface interval = 0 day 18 hr 0 min.
Elevation = 0ft
Conservatism = + 3
Dec to 200ft (4) Trimix 18/45 50ft/min descent.
Level 200ft 11:00 (15) Trimix 18/45 1.24 ppO2, 76ft ead, 95ft end
Asc to 120ft (17) Trimix 18/45 -30ft/min ascent.
Asc to 110ft (18) Nitrox 32 -30ft/min ascent.
Stop at 110ft 1:00 (19) Nitrox 32 1.36 ppO2, 90ft ead
Stop at 100ft 1:00 (20) Nitrox 32 1.26 ppO2, 81ft ead
Stop at 90ft 1:00 (21) Nitrox 32 1.17 ppO2, 73ft ead
Stop at 80ft 1:00 (22) Nitrox 32 1.07 ppO2, 64ft ead
Stop at 70ft 1:00 (23) Nitrox 32 0.98 ppO2, 56ft ead
Stop at 60ft 1:00 (24) Nitrox 32 0.89 ppO2, 47ft ead
Stop at 50ft 1:00 (25) Nitrox 32 0.79 ppO2, 38ft ead
Stop at 40ft 2:00 (27) Nitrox 32 0.70 ppO2, 30ft ead
Stop at 30ft 4:00 (31) Nitrox 32 0.60 ppO2, 21ft ead
Stop at 20ft 4:00 (35) Oxygen 1.59 ppO2, 0ft ead
Stop at 10ft 7:00 (42) Oxygen 1.29 ppO2, 0ft ead
Surface (42) Oxygen -30ft/min ascent.
Off gassing starts at 142.6ft
OTU's this dive: 50
CNS Total: 21.2%
85.5 cu ft Trimix 18/45
23.8 cu ft Nitrox 32
9.2 cu ft Oxygen
118.6 cu ft TOTAL
DIVE PLAN COMPLETE
Here's a contingency plan for a 10 ft deeper and 5 minute longer dive:
Decompression model: VPM - B
DIVE PLAN
Surface interval = 0 day 18 hr 0 min.
Elevation = 0ft
Conservatism = + 3
Dec to 200ft (4) Trimix 18/45 50ft/min descent.
Dec to 210ft (4) Trimix 18/45 60ft/min descent.
Level 210ft 15:50 (20) Trimix 18/45 1.29 ppO2, 80ft ead, 100ft end
Asc to 130ft (22) Trimix 18/45 -30ft/min ascent.
Stop at 130ft 0:20 (23) Trimix 18/45 0.87 ppO2, 43ft ead, 56ft end
Stop at 120ft 1:00 (24) Nitrox 32 1.45 ppO2, 99ft ead
Stop at 110ft 1:00 (25) Nitrox 32 1.36 ppO2, 90ft ead
Stop at 100ft 1:00 (26) Nitrox 32 1.26 ppO2, 81ft ead
Stop at 90ft 1:00 (27) Nitrox 32 1.17 ppO2, 73ft ead
Stop at 80ft 1:00 (28) Nitrox 32 1.07 ppO2, 64ft ead
Stop at 70ft 1:00 (29) Nitrox 32 0.98 ppO2, 56ft ead
Stop at 60ft 2:00 (31) Nitrox 32 0.89 ppO2, 47ft ead
Stop at 50ft 2:00 (33) Nitrox 32 0.79 ppO2, 38ft ead
Stop at 40ft 4:00 (37) Nitrox 32 0.70 ppO2, 30ft ead
Stop at 30ft 6:00 (43) Nitrox 32 0.60 ppO2, 21ft ead
Stop at 20ft 6:00 (49) Oxygen 1.59 ppO2, 0ft ead
Stop at 10ft 10:00 (59) Oxygen 1.29 ppO2, 0ft ead
Surface (59) Oxygen -30ft/min ascent.
Off gassing starts at 155.9ft
OTU's this dive: 70
CNS Total: 30.6%
119.7 cu ft Trimix 18/45
31.7 cu ft Nitrox 32
13.4 cu ft Oxygen
164.9 cu ft TOTAL
DIVE PLAN COMPLETE
Let me know what you think about this plan!
Arctic Mike
05-15-2009, 04:57 PM
Hey guys, take another look at the dive plans for Saturday. I adjusted the conservatism to +3 and the surface interval to reflect the dives I am doing today.
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